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By: Tim Mongeon       
Date: May 24,2020 at 15:24
In Response to: File as a ZEP (Ben Kent)

> > > > I use long pathnames and filenames in my work constantly. I
> > have
> > > > already set Windows to support long file paths so that isn't the
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > When I go to open a file that has a long path greater than 260
> > > > characters, Ztree chokes and gives me the irritating error from
> > > Windows-
> > > > cannot find file and the subsequent error Unable to open file
> error
> > > 1223.
> > > > I say irritating because I have to close out two error messages
> > not
> > > just
> > > > one.
> > >
> > > Is there a chance this Windows long names setting will become the
> > > default? It has the potential to mess badly with Ztree's
> usability.
> > It
> > > might be worth recording it as a bug under the post for the latest
> > zeta.
> > > I see no length limit mentioned in the help file, so that's what
> it
> > is.
> >
> > I am not understanding what you are referring to as a bug. If I were
> > to guess, let me respond by saying that Windows OS may make this the
> > default in the future - who knows - that fact that Windows Home still
> has
> > to turn it on via the Registry is probably holding this back- but all
> it
> > takes is another 'major' update to change all that. There are,
> > however, many people who do have this enabled - Home or Pro. It just
> > makes sense. It is just another option. Heck I also have shortnames
> > turned on as well.
> >
> > If you are saying that Ztree would make it a default - why? when all
> > users would have to do is turn it in or off via the Config. What
> would be
> > the big deal?
> >
> > If you are stating that the Ztree help should mention the limitation
> > rather than do something about it - well, I don't support that the
> way
> > you wrote it as a 'bug'. That would be the same as saying Ztree
> would
> > never support it - case closed. All people who want it - look
> elsewhere
> > - not welcome here. I am, however, all for the help stating that at
> the
> > moment the limitation is 260 characters under the Windows old API
> > restriction of MAX_PATH.
> >
> > Why would it affect Ztree's usability? Your statement doesn't make
> > sense - and again, I apologize ahead of time if I am misunderstanding
> > your statement. But if not, - just another option - turn on, turn
> off.
> > I remember when the Dir mode was such a big deal in the forums - and
> if I
> > am not mistaken there were some for and against this as well. Kim did
> > finally implement this, and it took some work on Kim's part to get
> it
> > right - in fact he is still working on it. But if you don't want to
> use
> > it - don't hit the 'w' command to turn it on. But I bet that most
> > people do use it - even the original naysayers.
> >
> > I'm sure that involved re-writing a lot of code.
> >
> > By the way this is just a discussion. I am not looking to ruffle
> > anyone's feathers over this.
> >
> > Hi Kim - I wish you would weigh in on this - If I am wrong, then I am
> > wrong. I am not looking to cause problems by making a request.
>
>
> My view this is a ZEP not a bug, i.e.
>
> ========
> ZEP
> Please update ZTree so that it becomes longPathAware and so can access
> long paths on systems where this policy is enabled
>
> Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Filesystem
> > Enable Win32 long paths
>
> See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/naming-a-file
> ========
>
>
> For people who need the old behavior they could edit the longPathAware
> setting in the manifest.
>
> There will be issues calling external utilities, for those I guess
> falling back to the shortname would be the first step, and we might need
> a new F9 Directive to switch to shortnames when the path hits MAX_PATH.
> Both of those assume that shortname generation is enabled.
>
>
> Thanks
> Ben


Thank you. That sounds about right. Kim, if you are around, please consider this for your fine program.

Thanks again.

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