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By: Tim Mongeon       
Date: May 25,2020 at 04:40
In Response to: File as a ZEP (Liviu)

> >> My view this is a ZEP not a bug, i.e.
> >
> > Why? Does any of the documentation of Ztree say its limit is 260? If
> we discovered Ztree's limit was 259
>
> ZTree's limit has been 512 since href=http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=121327>v2.4.192,
> and 400 before that since href=http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=100802>v2.0.60 of
> summer 2008.
>
> Prior to that, the limit was 260, and it wasn't ZTree's. The 260
> limit has been the builtin default in Windows forever (and DOS before it)
> until Windows 10 "anniversary edition" added a choice to bypass it
> (which requires a double opt-in machine policy + app manifest). Before
> that summer of 2016, it still was technically possible to work with path
> lengths greater than 260 (which is how ZTree went to the 400 and 512
> limits), but it involved special "win32 file namespace" gymnastics that
> had their own quirks and were not supported by all file/directory APIs.
>
> IMHO it is not a ZTree bug that the OS moved the posts. It is a change,
> however, and ZTree will hopefully follow suit at some point provided
> enough interest is shown, which is precisely what ZEPs are for.
>
> Cheers,
> Liviu
>
> P.S. Unrelated to ZTree, I would advise caution over (ab)using these
> new super-long paths too early, since support for them is inconsistent at
> best (unless you are a robocopy afficionado exclusively, in which case
> you are safe ;-)) Last I checked Windows Explorer still didn't like
> paths longer than 260 characters, then command line limits are hit at
> around 1K (CreateProcessWithTokenW) and 8K (cmd.exe), then again at 2K
> (registry) and 8K (prompt) for environment variables etc. And that's not
> even counting external non-MS apps.

I don't know if it is because of a newer update of Windows but I have yet to have a problem using the LFN with Explorer or other 3rd party programs that support this. I have no doubt about what you say in terms of some older 32 bit programs, but I have not experienced this under 64 bit OS. But again - even if all of this still pertains - turn it on - turn it off - if you have a problem with one of the many things you mention - turn it off - then turn it back on when done. If it were true that turning it on did something permanent, Microsoft would have removed the option, but if anything, it has had stronger support. They moved the option from it's original setting in Group Policy but that's about it.

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