Rule #5 needs to sink in... by Slobodan Vujnovic

Rule #5 needs to sink in [Discuss]

By: Slobodan Vujnovic France
Date: Jun 27,2002 at 01:42
In Response to: RFR - Wildcards (John Gruener)

> 1. Two wildcards will be supported: The question mark and asterisk. > 2. Wildcards will have the same meaning as they do in the rename mask. > 3. If no wildcards are used in the find string, then none may be used in the > replace string. > 4. If wildcards are used in the find string then they are optional in the > replace string. > 5. Wildcards used in the replace string must correspond in type and number to > those used in the find string. > 6. Wildcards in the find string may be used only between two valid filename > characters.

Incredible work Kim and John, thanks again!!!

> Example file name: ABEF.ABCDEF.ABC

> Embedded asterisks in find: > "B*E"3" = A3F.A3F.ABC OK

> "B*E"3456" = A3456F.A3456F.ABC OK

> "B*E"*" = AF.ACDF.ABC I'm having a problem understanding the rule (Rule #5?) behind this one. It appears that a '*' in the replace string will keep(?) in the matched part of the name the number of matching chars.

1. In ABEF there are ZERO chars between BandE, so the resulting string is AF.

2. In ABCDEF there are TWO chars between BandE, C and D, resulting in ACDF.

> "B*E"34*" = A34F.A34CDF.ABC > "B*E"*56" = A56F.ACD56F.ABC > "B*E"34*56" = A3456F.A34CD56F.ABC

These are consistent with the above reasoning, but is this clear to everybody -- do we need a rule to define this better? Rule #5 does talk about the number, but the wording could maybe be more explicit?

I think I'm confused because in all other contexts, like Filespec, B*E would match BxxxE and both B and E would appear in a selection; here, they disappear -- but LEAVE the stuff they enclose alone...

If using this is tough, imagine the coding part :-)

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[Discuss] Rename Find and Replace (4,054) - John Gruener - Jun 16,2002 at 11:22 [Discuss]
- [Discuss] Rename Find and Replace (2,209) - Pat Gilbert - Jun 16,2002 at 14:44
  - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,923) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 04:25
    - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,910) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 17,2002 at 06:59
      - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,903) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 11:53
        [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,926) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 17,2002 at 17:32
      - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,918) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 01:56
        [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,785) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 18,2002 at 02:42
        [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,816) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 03:05
  - [Discuss] RFR - Open Parsing (2,000) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 06:02
    - Cart before the horse please (1,789) - Michael Kahn - Jun 17,2002 at 07:19
      - Cart before the horse please (1,830) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 07:55
        Cart before the horse please (1,856) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 17,2002 at 10:03
        Cart before the horse please (1,811) - Steve Rawling - Jun 17,2002 at 12:19
      - I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,914) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 17,2002 at 19:37
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,938) - Michael Kahn - Jun 18,2002 at 06:19
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,820) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 18,2002 at 09:37
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,896) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 23:30
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,822) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 18,2002 at 23:56
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,819) - Michael Kahn - Jun 18,2002 at 23:57
        I've accepted LFN's as a fact of life (1,775) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 19,2002 at 00:06
        BG (1,835) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 23:39
        BG (1,768) - Michael Kahn - Jun 19,2002 at 01:12
- [Discuss] Rename Find and Replace (1,833) - Steve Rawling - Jun 16,2002 at 15:29
  - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,872) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 04:36
    - [Discuss] RFR - The Period (1,800) - Steve Rawling - Jun 17,2002 at 07:14
- [Discuss] Rename Find and Replace (1,884) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 16,2002 at 20:34
  - [Discuss] RFR - Case Sensitivity (1,949) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 07:06
  - [Discuss] RFR - Replacement Sequence (1,781) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 12:13
- [Discuss] Rename Find and Replace (1,599) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 16,2002 at 23:48
  - [Opinion] Most Important Missing Capability (1,750) - John Gruener - Jun 18,2002 at 00:44
    - [Opinion] Most Important Missing Capability (1,787) - Kim Henkel - Jun 18,2002 at 00:47
    - pretty much agree with that one [no msg] (1,790) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 18,2002 at 01:29
      - I also agree [no msg/no dot] (1,747) - Michael Kahn - Jun 18,2002 at 02:19
- Cart before the horse please (1,880) - David Wall - Jun 17,2002 at 08:03
  - Cart before the horse please (1,801) - John Gruener - Jun 17,2002 at 08:13
  - Cart before the horse please (1,707) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 17,2002 at 20:20
- Not easy... (1,910) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 08:29
  - Not easy but Some examples (2,145) - Steve Rawling - Jun 18,2002 at 11:15
  - Possible solution (1,948) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 18,2002 at 18:02
    - Very nice! (1,877) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 22:58
    - Possible solution (2,014) - Steve Rawling - Jun 19,2002 at 12:48
- Very light-weight for today's needs (1,902) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 18,2002 at 20:56
- [Discuss] RFR - Making Progress (1,844) - John Gruener - Jun 19,2002 at 04:19
  - [Discuss] RFR - Making Progress (1,985) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 19,2002 at 06:56
    - [Discuss] RFR - Making Progress (1,768) - John Gruener - Jun 19,2002 at 07:25
  - Regex (1,740) - Steve Rawling - Jun 19,2002 at 09:34
  - Making it very modular? (1,818) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 02:53
    - Agree, that makes sense. (1,769) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 20,2002 at 03:35
    - Making it very modular? (1,677) - Steve Rawling - Jun 20,2002 at 07:21
      - Simple design, complex application (1,812) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 20:15
        Simple design, complex application (1,813) - Steve Rawling - Jun 20,2002 at 21:37
        dir\file = name.ext similarity (1,787) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 22:44
        dir\file = name.ext would add confusion. (1,762) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 09:03
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        RFR - Rename Mask Command? (1,596) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 09:57
        dir\file = name.ext would add confusion. (1,654) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 21,2002 at 17:19
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        Simple design, complex application (1,563) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 11:07
        Simple design, complex application (1,612) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 21,2002 at 17:19
        Simple design, simple maintenance (1,694) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 21,2002 at 18:25
        Simple design, simple maintenance (1,634) - Steve Rawling - Jun 24,2002 at 17:11
        Simple design, simple maintenance (1,575) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 24,2002 at 18:33
        Simple design, simple maintenance (1,536) - Michael Kahn - Jun 25,2002 at 00:43
    - Making it very modular? (1,760) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 20,2002 at 07:47
      - Making it very modular? (1,760) - Steve Rawling - Jun 20,2002 at 09:13
        Making it very modular? (1,594) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 20,2002 at 17:25
        Making it very modular? (1,635) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 20:36
      - Making it very modular? (1,637) - John Gruener - Jun 20,2002 at 10:35
        Making it very modular? (1,597) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 20,2002 at 17:04
        Keeping the language simple a valid goal (1,709) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 20:46
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        RFR - Ambiguity (1,539) - John Gruener - Jun 21,2002 at 00:18
        RFR - Ambiguity (1,606) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 21,2002 at 00:52
        RFR - Ambiguity (1,666) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 08:32
        RFR - Ambiguity (1,608) - John Gruener - Jun 21,2002 at 09:21
        RFR - Ambiguity (1,815) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 09:52
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        RFR - .Ambiguity (1,679) - Steve Rawling - Jun 22,2002 at 16:40
        RFR - .Ambiguity (1,807) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 22,2002 at 18:04
        RFR - .Ambiguity (1,646) - Steve Rawling - Jun 24,2002 at 11:52
        RFR - .Ambiguity (1,936) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 25,2002 at 05:07
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        Deleting posts in the middle of a thread (1,614) - Steve Rawling - Jun 29,2002 at 15:40
        Deleting posts in the middle of a thread (1,732) - Graeme Hoose - Jun 29,2002 at 22:45
        More hard facts :-) (1,642) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 25,2002 at 23:13
        More hard facts :-) (1,662) - Michael Kahn - Jun 26,2002 at 00:12
        More hard facts :-) (1,669) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 26,2002 at 04:43
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      - Making it very modular? (1,568) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 20:29
        Making it very modular? (1,586) - Juergen Hestermann - Jun 21,2002 at 02:26
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      - RFR - More Progress (1,684) - Steve Rawling - Jun 20,2002 at 10:49
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        RFR - Pattern Matching (1,721) - Jim Farnsworth - Jun 21,2002 at 10:52
        RFR - Pattern Matching (1,773) - Steve Rawling - Jun 21,2002 at 11:01
  - Example #2 (1,618) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 23:14
- Example #1 (1,610) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 20,2002 at 22:13
- RFR - The Command Separator (1,772) - John Gruener - Jun 21,2002 at 01:48
  - RFR - The Command Separator (1,673) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 21,2002 at 02:21
- RFR - Operator Command Summary (1,690) - John Gruener - Jun 21,2002 at 02:46
  - Ignore mimic not clear (1,620) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 21,2002 at 19:09
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- RFR - Changing Case (1,552) - John Gruener - Jun 24,2002 at 00:44
  - RFR - Changing Case (1,466) - Michael Kahn - Jun 24,2002 at 06:22
    - RFR - Changing Case (1,724) - John Gruener - Jun 24,2002 at 06:43
      - RFR - Changing Case (1,644) - Michael Kahn - Jun 24,2002 at 07:49
        RFR - Changing Case (1,559) - John Gruener - Jun 24,2002 at 09:15
        RFR - Changing Case (1,654) - Michael Kahn - Jun 24,2002 at 09:29
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- RFR - Wildcards (1,881) - John Gruener - Jun 24,2002 at 07:33
  - RFR - Wildcards (1,976) - Steve Rawling - Jun 24,2002 at 09:53
  - Rule #5 needs to sink in (1,628) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 27,2002 at 01:42
    - Please read the release notes ;-) (1,580) - Kim Henkel - Jun 27,2002 at 01:46
      - It's the theoretical part (1,702) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 27,2002 at 02:11
    - The "Theoretical" Part - It's Not Rule 5 (2,000) - John Gruener - Jun 27,2002 at 03:09
      - The "Theoretical" Part - It's Not Ru (1,602) - Slobodan Vujnovic - Jun 28,2002 at 00:18
- RFR - Summary Here (1,523) - John Gruener - Jun 26,2002 at 05:02