> Ztree error: Write Protected [19]

As mentioned for example here:
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/2347-error-codes-in-windows
error 19 means that the *media is write protected*. So maybe your slider for protection is faulty or shows the wrong state.

Jürgen.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109891 Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:07:18 GMT Post by Leonard R. Miller, Jul 30,2010 at 09:20:

I'm certain I've done it before but perhaps not on my Win 7 desktop.

When I finished copying a cluster of jpg files from my SD card to my desktop I attempted to delete that same group of tagged files.

Ztree error: Write Protected [19]

Using Explorer I selected that same group, then right click for a menu -- delete was not one of my options.

When I removed the card I checked the tiny slider protection switch and it was not in the Lock position.

I guess I'll have to learn how to manage my photo files on the camera unless ya'll can give me a clue to what I'm missing here.

Len]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109890 Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:20:04 GMT Reply from Slobodan Vujnovic, Jul 29,2010 at 12:39:

WinSCP is a great FTP client that you may want to try using on that box
for mass file management, like renaming:

http://winscp.net/eng/docs/task_move_duplicate#moving_remote_files

I have no idea if it will be any faster, but it's worth a try. The UI and
the overall quality is impressive for a free product and I use it a lot.
It's also works stand-alone.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109889 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:39:23 GMT Reply from Laurent Duchastel, Jul 29,2010 at 09:56:

> Just reread your message in the cold light of dawn and I may have
> misunderstood.
>
> Moving files from one dir to another on the same drive is fast because
> the data isnt moved, just the directory entry gets tweaked. However,
> SAMBA is still in the way (since you are doing it over the network) and
> moving loads of small files will be slow as a result (my comment about
> anti-virus still applies).
>
> Moving files across the network using graft involves copying the data -
> over and above this SAMBA still gets in the way of any file
> creation/access right setup/... I find moving lots of small files across
> the network is not fast.
>
> It's interesting that doing the same bewteen two windoze boxes is a lot
> faster - shows the overhead imposed by SAMBA.
>
> I wish there were an easy way to mount an nfs file system under Windoze
> - it would make life a lot easier.


Exactly the issue. You got it right.

Moving files on same volume is basically a rename operation. It takes, whatever the size of the file, between 0.2 and 4 seconds to perform on MyBook unit, depending of network and unit loads, but the greater the number of files, the slower the operation. For few files, this delay is acceptable, but for a larger number of files, this is inconvenience.

On the other hand, Grafting can occasionnaly suffers similar delay, but is usually very fast. It is therefore faster to graft, let's say, three dozens subdirectories by hand (Alt-G x 36 times) than Alt-Moving the 400 files below. I can live with that, even if it is far from perfect.

Another inconvenient of MyBook unit is that each share folder is a volume, even if there is only one single partition. Moving file from one volume to another (each one being mapped as different letter) is therefore a copy operation, even much slower. This can be anoying.

Despite these limitations however, I still find useful to have a small silent box acting as a full-fledge server. I also discovered that you can hack the unit to install some Linux applications to extend its functionnality. As I said, it's a small computer with a huge hard disk.

What would be best is the same unit, but Windows/NTFS native. That would be awesome and much much faster. It would cost more than the 200$ I paid however...]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109887 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:56:32 GMT Reply from Bob Selby, Jul 29,2010 at 01:41:

Just reread your message in the cold light of dawn and I may have misunderstood.

Moving files from one dir to another on the same drive is fast because the data isnt moved, just the directory entry gets tweaked. However, SAMBA is still in the way (since you are doing it over the network) and moving loads of small files will be slow as a result (my comment about anti-virus still applies).

Moving files across the network using graft involves copying the data - over and above this SAMBA still gets in the way of any file creation/access right setup/... I find moving lots of small files across the network is not fast.

It's interesting that doing the same bewteen two windoze boxes is a lot faster - shows the overhead imposed by SAMBA.

I wish there were an easy way to mount an nfs file system under Windoze - it would make life a lot easier.

Rgds,
Bob]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109886 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:41:58 GMT Reply from Bob Selby, Jul 28,2010 at 19:16:

I run a linux distro firewall box that also acts as a file server and run into similar performance problems.

I suspect that your very neat little box has a native (ex2/ex3) file system and runs SAMBA on top to provide a windoze network file system.

SAMBA is not the fastest piece of software as it has to translate windoze commands to linux commands and map/emulate things like windoze file atributes under linux.

It may be that the box also supports nfs or some other network file system. Not sure if there is a windoze nfs package out there - but may be worth looking into.

One thing worth trying ... I have found that my anti-virus software imposes a significant overhead when copying/moving small files. I have found it very beneficial to turn off access scanning while moving files (assuming those files have been scanned and cleared sometime in the past).

Rgds,
Bob]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109885 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:16:47 GMT Post by Laurent Duchastel, Jul 28,2010 at 13:57:

I just bought a WD MyBook World Edition 2G external network drive for under 200$CDN. This is not a typical hard drive as it runs a small Linux OS and acts as its own server on the network. Users, permissions, folders, etc. are all set on the unit itself through a web interface. As a matter of fact, it's a small computer. It can even download from webiste or Torrent by itself (no usage for me BTW). It can also stream to iPod, Xbox, computer, etc. And with the fee Mionet account, it is even possible to access files from anywhere securely.

Apart the two megabyte storage, ease of use, and network access to files anytime without a desktop running, what I find most interesting with that unit is its small size and the fact that it can be hidden in a closet or on a shelf. I live in a though neigbourhood and I always fear a break-in. Having all my precious stuff (or backup of it) on a small hidden unit rather than a visible attractive desktop brings me some confort.

Now, using ZTree with that drive is bound only through network mapping. There is no way to use ZTree locally, and anyway, it's a Linux-based filesystem.

I am currently moving or reorganizing huge amount of data to the network drive (the disk already half full). What I found is that graft operations from that hard drive to istelf are fast, but move operations for files from it to it are MUCH slower. I just Alt-Move 700Meg/477 files from a dir to a subdir and it took more than two minutes. Not exactly fast. By comparison, moving 200Gig/21 AVI files took 3 seconds. It seems there is a network delay between each rename operation (which is what a move file from one unit to itself is).

Is there a way to improve ZTree operations on a network drive?]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109884 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:57:19 GMT Reply from Kim Henkel, Jul 28,2010 at 11:48:

]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109883 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:48:49 GMT Reply from Hartmut Schneider, Jul 28,2010 at 03:37:

> Version 2.1.087 (26 July 2010)
but occurs in v2.1.083 as well.

When comparing a file whose name is too long to fit into the input line,
- ZTree shows incorrect highlighting (too far left, grey here, spans into the menu word 'with:') - 70 chars here:



- If the filename is even more too long, ZTree hangs:
no reaction; machine resources are blocked; clicking on Close button quits ZTree, but after some seconds only.

Best regards,
Hartmut]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109882 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:37:01 GMT Reply from Ian Binnie, Jul 27,2010 at 20:14:

> I have been asked to visit a friend tomorrow to sort out a problem
> with an external drive his son has bought for his Mac. He can't access
> it from his family's PCs.
>
> I don't know if he bought an Apple drive or a generic drive.
>
> I know nothing about Macs but I suspect it is caused by the file system
> on the external drive being HFS Plus.

If the drive was used on a Mac it will almost certainly be some version of HFS+
(Apple have changed their terminology somewhat with OS X and introduced new journalling versions)

> If it's an Apple drive I wouldn't want to mess with it. It may be a
> Time Capsule.

This should not be a problem (at least in read mode).
It is a while since I looked at a Time Machine disk, but as far as I remember it is just a list of files.

> If it's a generic drive:
>
> * when it's first plugged into a Mac does it ask if you want to format
> it to HFS+?

Yes - especially if it is to be used for Time Machine, which is one of the first questions it asks (10.5 on)

> * is it possible to re-format it to FAT32 and if so where do you do
> find the command to do it? I guess you could do this from a PC.

It can be done from Mac, although the procedure varies slightly depending on OS
10.4 - 10.5

I wouldn't do this myself, especially for a large drive, but you would know this as well as I.

In addition OS X can do nasty things to FAT or NTFS drives.
I have tried to help my son recover partitions from plugging a disk into a Mac.

Even if doesn't cause any damage, Macs write all sort of strange files to a disk, even if only used in read mode (and leave Trash in hidden directories even on USB key).

> Can anyone offer any advice on this matter please?

If you want to examine the disk, you could do this from Linux - either a Virtual Machine or from one of the live distributions. Ubuntu is very easy to use.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109881 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:14:14 GMT Reply from Alan Smedley, Jul 27,2010 at 16:40:

Andrew

Some Googling found these references.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080411155517808

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040724110933265

If you wish to format the drive as FAT32 on the Macintosh, simply open "Disk Utility" from /Applications/Utilties, highlight the disk in the left-hand sidebar, select the "Erase" tab, and select "MS-DOS File System" from the volume format pull-down menu.

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/other-hardware-peripherals/49932-formatting-external-drive-fat32.html

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030613121738812

Hope that helps. Seems to me it is possible to do it in either Windows or Mac. But the one item that stands out to me from this is the recommendation to set up a drive of multiple partition and formats in FAT32 before converting to the alternate formats. Apparently this is because the automatic drive recognition is better that way.

Alan Smedley]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109880 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:59 GMT Post by Andrew Watson, Jul 27,2010 at 09:56:

I have been asked to visit a friend tomorrow to sort out a problem with an external drive his son has bought for his Mac. He can't access it from his family's PCs.

I don't know if he bought an Apple drive or a generic drive.

I know nothing about Macs but I suspect it is caused by the file system on the external drive being HFS Plus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS%2B

If it's an Apple drive I wouldn't want to mess with it. It may be a Time Capsule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Machine_(Apple_software)

If it's a generic drive:

* when it's first plugged into a Mac does it ask if you want to format it to HFS+?

* is it possible to re-format it to FAT32 and if so where do you do find the command to do it? I guess you could do this from a PC.

Can anyone offer any advice on this matter please?]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109879 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:56:20 GMT Post by Kim Henkel, Jul 26,2010 at 22:47:

Version 2.1.087 (26 July 2010)

HTML swallowed part of the syntax for dumpurls.

> Run the console client from a command line like this with your Windows
> Live ID credentials:
>
> dumpurls.exe <username> <password>]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109877 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:04:32 GMT Post by Andrew Watson, Jul 26,2010 at 20:57:

Microsoft SkyDrive = 25GB of cloud storage

http://www.skydrive.com

Max file size = 50MB

Download SkyDrive Simple Viewer for WebDAV

http://skydrivesimpleviewer.codeplex.com/

The console client requires Microsoft.NET 2.0 and can be downloaded as the recommended release.

Run the console client from a command line like this with your Windows Live ID credentials:

dumpurls.exe

And you will hopefully see a list of addresses that you can use in mapping up your WebDAV access in Windows. Those addresses can for instance be used in a "net use" command to map drives for them. Note that there is no concept of a "root" in SkyDrive. You must map/access the folders at the "root" individually.

eg dumpurls myaccount@hotmail.com password

https://xxxxxx.docs.live.net/9ab123456cd7890e/^.Public

net use P: https://xxxxxx.docs.live.net/9ab123456cd7890e/^.Public password /user:myaccount@hotmail.com]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109875 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:57:05 GMT Reply from Kim Henkel, Jul 26,2010 at 09:23:

]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109874 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:23:18 GMT Reply from Oliver Pretzel, Jul 26,2010 at 08:38:

]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109873 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:38:03 GMT Reply from Juergen Hestermann, Jul 26,2010 at 05:09:

If I do the following:

1.) Start up Ztree
2.) Alt+Release/This Drive
3.) On the prompt for the drive to switch to type escape
4.) On the prompt "Are you sure you wish to exit?" type Yes

then Ztree crashes.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109872 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:09:55 GMT Reply from Juergen Hestermann, Jul 26,2010 at 04:42:

> Usually this is just an inconvenience, but sometimes it has come near
> to ruining a lot of work if I'm tired and my hand is in semi-automatic
> mode.

This can also happen if each instance would preserve its own settings. If you are not aware that you switched to another instance (of possibly many) and therefore expect the same F9 cursor position which you just used a second ago (but on another instance). Also, it is a good thing that you don't loose changes on your F9 settings if you modify it in multiple instances.

Jürgen.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109871 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:42:54 GMT Reply from Ian Binnie, Jul 25,2010 at 20:17:

> So .. you are saying that every time I hit F9 it also reloads the .ZAM
> file ??

I can't comment on the exact mechanism used within ZTreeWin - maybe it only reloads if changed.

> I can understand re-writing the .ZAM file if it changes and if it
> contains the menu item currently selected but why reload it from disk ??
> Surely it can remember it without a reload ??

The currently selected menu item is saved in the .ZAM file, so if you have 2 instances with different items selected it would cause a change, and force a reload.

> If you have multiple instances open any changes made to the menu could
> be lost anyway depending on the order you shut them down - I'm always
> carefull to only have one instance open if I am modifying a menu, for
> that very reason.

I actually do all my changes to the .ZAM file in an external editor, so I find this very convenient, although ZTreeWin objects if you make changes (even navigation) if the file is open for write.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109870 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:17:47 GMT Reply from Bob Selby, Jul 25,2010 at 17:37:

> This is not a bug.

Perhaps not, more like a "feature" - but it is very inconvenient.

> Both instances are using the same ZTW.ZAM, which is re-written after
> each use.
>
> If you want independence, use 2 different .ZAM files, but to
> automatically load the correct file you would need to use alternate
> configuration files (in different directories).

So .. you are saying that every time I hit F9 it also reloads the .ZAM file ??

I can understand re-writing the .ZAM file if it changes and if it contains the menu item currently selected but why reload it from disk ?? Surely it can remember it without a reload ??

If you have multiple instances open any changes made to the menu could be lost anyway depending on the order you shut them down - I'm always carefull to only have one instance open if I am modifying a menu, for that very reason.

Seems odd to me ...]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109869 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:37:57 GMT Reply from Ian Binnie, Jul 24,2010 at 17:49:

> If I have two instances of ZTWin the same installation running and
> use F9 menu item "Fred" in the first and then go to instance 2 and use F9
> menu item "George" what I find is that when I go back to instance 1 and
> hit F9 then menu item "George" is highlighted.
>
> Usually this is just an inconvenience, but sometimes it has come near
> to ruining a lot of work if I'm tired and my hand is in semi-automatic
> mode.

This is not a bug.

Both instances are using the same ZTW.ZAM, which is re-written after each use.

If you want independence, use 2 different .ZAM files, but to automatically load the correct file you would need to use alternate configuration files (in different directories).]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109868 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:49:20 GMT Reply from Bob Selby, Jul 24,2010 at 14:42:

If I have two instances of ZTWin the same installation running and use F9 menu item "Fred" in the first and then go to instance 2 and use F9 menu item "George" what I find is that when I go back to instance 1 and hit F9 then menu item "George" is highlighted.

Usually this is just an inconvenience, but sometimes it has come near to ruining a lot of work if I'm tired and my hand is in semi-automatic mode.

Bob]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109867 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:42:26 GMT Reply from John Gruener, Jul 23,2010 at 17:44:

> Change- Existing file prompt - Display source name when changed to match target

It occurs to me that when the source name (not just the case) is different from the target, it would be a good idea to highlight the target name just as the date, time, attributes and size are highlighted when they are different.

This would be consistent, and add yet another degree of safety when a file is being copied over a different one.

- John]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109866 Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:44:50 GMT Reply from Ian Binnie, Jul 22,2010 at 21:09:

> > > I agree that ZNOLOG.INI is a better way to avoid junctions
> because
> > > it allows me to avoid juctions, but still be able to access other
> > system
> > > and hidden dirs.
> >
> > I'm confused. Doesn't using CO-2J = +J (without +SH) do that?
>
> Yes it does! I did not actually look at the CO options (and apparently
> neither did Ian.

No - I know what the options are.
I make quite a bit of use of junctions, and don't want to hide them - although I like the option to colour them distinctly.

ZNOLOG.INI lets you hide the ones Microsoft won't let you access, without hiding useful junctions.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109865 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:09:46 GMT Reply from Michael Kahn, Jul 22,2010 at 17:26:

> > I agree that ZNOLOG.INI is a better way to avoid junctions because
> > it allows me to avoid juctions, but still be able to access other
> system
> > and hidden dirs.
>
> I'm confused. Doesn't using CO-2J = +J (without +SH) do that?

Yes it does! I did not actually look at the CO options (and apparently neither did Ian.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109864 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:26:51 GMT Reply from John Gruener, Jul 22,2010 at 14:49:

> I agree that ZNOLOG.INI is a better way to avoid junctions because
> it allows me to avoid juctions, but still be able to access other system
> and hidden dirs.

I'm confused. Doesn't using CO-2J = +J (without +SH) do that?

- John]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109863 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:49:12 GMT Reply from Michael Kahn, Jul 21,2010 at 21:35:

I agree that ZNOLOG.INI is a better way to avoid junctions because it allows me to avoid juctions, but still be able to access other system and hidden dirs.]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109862 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:35:45 GMT Reply from Ian Binnie, Jul 21,2010 at 20:46:

]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109861 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:46:38 GMT Reply from Leonard R. Miller, Jul 21,2010 at 16:22:

> > On Win7 and using Ztree 2.1.083 I just went to open a directory to
> > do a bit of file maintenance. This folder has several of my Casio
> > calculator programs.
> >
> > C:UsersLeonardMy DocumentsCASIOFA-124
>
> 'My Documents' is a junction - that (most likely) points to
> 'Documents'.
>
> Try logging:
>
> C:UsersLeonardDocumentsCASIOFA-124
>
> (I recommend most users set CO-2J to +j to simply prevent ZTree showing
> junctions at all).]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109860 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:22:26 GMT Reply from Kim Henkel, Jul 21,2010 at 15:19:

> On Win7 and using Ztree 2.1.083 I just went to open a directory to
> do a bit of file maintenance. This folder has several of my Casio
> calculator programs.
>
> C:UsersLeonardMy DocumentsCASIOFA-124

'My Documents' is a junction - that (most likely) points to 'Documents'.

Try logging:

C:UsersLeonardDocumentsCASIOFA-124

(I recommend most users set CO-2J to +j to simply prevent ZTree showing junctions at all).]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109859 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:19:24 GMT Post by Leonard R. Miller, Jul 21,2010 at 14:45:

On Win7 and using Ztree 2.1.083 I just went to open a directory to do a bit of file maintenance. This folder has several of my Casio calculator programs.

C:UsersLeonardMy DocumentsCASIOFA-124

However, the furthest I can go is "C:UsersLeonardMy Documents" where the Ztree message is "Access Denied".

I figured I may be able to use Explorer to change the permissions of My Documents but I then discovered I didn't need to (using Explorer). Explorer drilled all the way down to the files that I originally wanted to take a peek at.

Why is that? Why not Ztree?

Len]]> http://www.ztw3.com/forum/forum_entry.php?id=109858 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:45:15 GMT Post by Kim Henkel, Jul 21,2010 at 09:53:

Version 2.1.086 (21 July 2010)